Can I complete my doctorate before 30?

Do a doctorate at 30 make sense?

Toilet brush 2.0  đź“… 08.03.2019 09:52:19
PhD at 30 makes sense?
I'll make it short.
Thanks to previous problems, I didn't start studying until I was 24, and that's why I won't finish my master’s degree until I am 30 (normal time).
Actually, I wanted to slowly apply for positions, but now I have received an offer to do a doctorate at ETH. Focus on AI / ML.

Does that still make sense at my age if you want to have a job later?
After all, I'm already out of 90% of the big companies because of my age and the meager CV.
Re: Do a doctorate at 30 make sense?
You already gave yourself your answer.

Make sure that at your advanced age you can finally get a wage and a living in industry.

The industry is still hiring people, but the mood is pretty tipping right now. I feel this in my Fraunhofer Institute, which is largely financed by orders from industry.
I would therefore by no means trust that people will be hired in the 3-5 years until you are finished with a doctorate. In fact, as the prospect is right now, I'd rather assume that won't be the case.



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JuraFR  đź“… 08.03.2019 17:12:28
Re: Doing a doctorate at 30 makes sense?
I think it's good that you left out such unimportant things as your subject, rudimentary information about your résumé or your future career goal. So you can really give a good answer to your question
Twelve  đź“… 08.03.2019 17:34:24
Re: Do a doctorate at 30 make sense?
From KlobĂĽrste2.0 I'll make it short.
Thanks to previous problems, I didn't start studying until I was 24, and that's why I won't finish my master’s degree until I am 30 (normal time).
Actually, I wanted to slowly apply for jobs, but now I've received an offer at the Do a PhD at ETH to be able to. Focus on AI / ML.

Does that still make sense at my age if you want to have a job later?
After all, I'm already out of 90% of the big companies because of my age and the meager résumé.
AI = artificial intelligence? If so, doing a doctorate at ETH is worthwhile - you will definitely find a job afterwards, albeit not particularly easily.
logician  đź“… 08.03.2019 18:56:45
Re: Doing a doctorate at 30 makes sense?
From KlobĂĽrste2.0 I'll make it short.
Thanks to previous problems, I didn't start studying until I was 24, and that's why I won't finish my master’s degree until I am 30 (normal time).
Actually, I wanted to slowly apply for positions, but now I have received an offer to do a doctorate at ETH. Focus on AI / ML.

Does that still make sense at my age if you want to have a job later?
After all, I'm already out of 90% of the big companies because of my age and the meager résumé.
The whole thing is a bit suspect. You haven't finished your master’s degree yet, but have you received an offer from ETH for a doctorate? Usually you apply for a PhD position that you are interested in.
Zesty  đź“… 08.03.2019 19:21:35
Re: Do a doctorate at 30 make sense?
From KlobĂĽrste2.0After all, I'm already out of 90% of the big companies because of my age and the meager CV.
It's just not true and also depends on your degree program (which you don't want to reveal)
Re: Doing a doctorate at 30 makes sense?
So if you are offered a promo, you can't be bad (unless you're a computer scientist, they take everyone ) And how do you want to finish at 24 if you only started at 24, it doesn't make any sense ...
the usual rules don't even apply to you, it's like apples and pears ...
You won't be able to stay at the university in the long term, but it is good for networking, depending on which direction you go later.
And there are certainly no age limits for a doctorate, as they will last a lifetime ...
come to the 1, x% club, we have cookies ...



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Re: Doing a doctorate at 30 makes sense?
At the ETH you will do your doctorate for 6 years, think realistically whether you will get a job at 36/37 or if you can get something at 33 with a discontinued doctorate. Have you ever lived in Switzerland for a long time as a German? Think it over well.
Toilet brush 2.0  đź“… 08.03.2019 20:27:11
Re: Do a doctorate at 30 make sense?
Hello, thanks for the numerous replies, it seems like a large part of my text has been lost, had a few problems on my mobile phone.

So briefly about my CV:
- Age: 30
- Abitur stage: 2.4
- Bachelor cut (computer science at the TU Berlin): 1.6
- Master's cut (computer science at ETH): 1.1 if the conversion is correct.
- 1 year working activity in the field of SWE at Bosch (during the bachelor's degree)
- 6 months internship in Big Data at Amazon (during the Masters)
- 3 months internship at a Swiss investment bank (during the Masters)


Age does not play a role at tech companies like Amazon, Google etc., but with my specialization I can only be asked for jobs that require a doctor.

So would the general public here oppose a PhD with age?
Toilet brush 2.0  đź“… 08.03.2019 20:41:57
Re: Do a doctorate at 30 make sense?
From logician
From KlobĂĽrste2.0 I'll make it short.
Thanks to previous problems, I didn't start studying until I was 24, and that's why I won't finish my master’s degree until I am 30 (normal time).
Actually, I wanted to slowly apply for positions, but now I have received an offer to do a doctorate at ETH. Focus on AI / ML.

Does that still make sense at my age if you want to have a job later?
After all, I'm already out of 90% of the big companies because of my age and the meager CV.
The whole thing is a bit suspect. You haven't finished your master’s degree yet, but have you received an offer from ETH for a doctorate? Usually you apply for a PhD position that you are interested in.
I know the professor, I took 4 modules with him and then once after the oral exam he asked me if I was interested.
Know enough, especially from chemistry that is asked. However, an application is the rule.