How rich is the Jedi Order

Discussion: Jedi

Changes as of June 8, 2006, 3:55 pm

Power User: A Jedi is not only receptive to the Force, but can also use it. And power user means both. The term may not be that well known, but it seems to be common in English.
Basic principles: The four basic principles are so in The New Essential Chronology called. It says, "The Force Users of Tython formed the Jedi Order as a society of 'pious' (monastic) Warriors who follow the principles of harmony, knowledge, serenity and peace. "For this reason, and because justice is quite relative, it should stay with the four. And since this foundation followed a conflict with dark Jedi, I have the formulation The Tython people adopted these basic principles and thus founded the well-known Jedi Order. Besides, these are THE basic principles and are not just one of them. The latter would mean (or at least suggest) that they are only part of the basic principles.
Old and New Order: There should be an article for both, as they are different from each other. Under Jedi Order they should both be summarized in its history, as there is also the article Padawan, although the term is explained in Jedi. This also makes it easier to write articles that relate to the Order, when you can just talk about the old and the new Order instead of always "the Order from 25,000 BC to 19 VSY" or "the Order of Luke Skywalker" or something similar.
Obi-Wan K. 18:33, Jun 8, 2006 (CEST)

Was Anakin the first and only council member without a championship title?

But Anakin is not the only non-Jedi master on the council because there is also Ki-Adi-Mundi, who is also not a Jedi master. - OOM-14, June 26, 2006

Lt. Episode III, Anakin is the first Jedi to be admitted to the council without the rank of Master. That Ki-Adi-Mundi should not have been a master must therefore be corrected. --Premia 23:37, Jun 28, 2006 (CEST)
but it has not been corrected: it is official that Ki-Adi-Mundi was not a master when he was admitted to the council. Anakin just told bullshit, be it because he didn't know any better, be it because he said that at the time all Jedi in the council were masters, be it because he just wanted to be masters too. He wasn't the first, the end. - Bathing cap dealer 16:02, Jun 29, 2006 (CEST)
Well - according to starwars.com, Ki-Adi-Mundi was first spoken of as a master at the time of the Battle of Naboo (32 VSY). However, I cannot read between the lines whether he was admitted to the council before or after the master's appointment or only afterwards ... In episode III, Anakin Skywalker complains to Obi-Wan Kenobi with the words: "There has never been anything like it!" Whether this should be idiotic drivel from Anakin should first be proven before the discussion is ended here! --Steffen Gebhart 10:35 p.m., Jul 2, 2006 (CEST)
I think I have heard before that Ki-Adi-Mundi came to the council as a knight. But I don't know where anymore.
Anakin's testimony to Obi-Wan is now no evidence against it. Either he didn't know about it, or an exception was made at Ki-Adi-Mundi so that Anakin ignored him. He is also allowed to do everything else, because of his species he was also allowed to marry. It could also be that Ki-Adi-Mundi was not the same kind of councilor that Anakin was, at least when he came onto the council. After all, there are three different council members.
But it would be nice if someone could provide clarity.
- Obi-Wan K. 23:43, Jul 2, 2006 (CEST)
Ki-Adi-Mundi was NOT a Jedi Knight when he was accepted into the council. In the book “Star Wars-The Illustrated Chronicle of the Complete Saga” (quote): “... Ki-Adi-Mundi is not yet a Jedi , the only knight in the council. ”In addition, in the book“ Star Wars Episodes I-VI The Compendium ”(quote):“ Ki-Adi-Mundi: A Jedi-KNIGHT from the ...

... was recently accepted into the council ... ”So Anakin was not the first knight on the council, which in turn means that he was bullshit. By the way, Ki-Adi-Mundi and Anakin were both long-term members. Jooruz C'Baotth 17:25, Oct 21, 2007 (CEST)

What? Ki-Adi-Mundi was not a Jedi when he was accepted into the Jedi Council, but a Jedi Knight? How can you be a Jedi Knight without being a Jedi? Greetings Admiral Ackbar 17:47, Oct 21, 2007 (CEST)

Oh shit ... I have probably made a mistake !!! Sry !!! User: Jooruz C'Baotth 19:35, 21 Oct 2007 (CEST) 19:34, 21 Oct 2007 (CEST)

Marriage with the Jedis

I haven't really dealt with the topic yet and maybe the answer is already somewhere, but: As far as I know, Jedis were married in earlier times, even to each other. Towards the end of the Old Republic, however, Jedis are forbidden from marrying at all, so Anakin does it secretly.

  • When was Jedi marriage banned?
  • Why?

Maybe someone knows, thank you! - Swordtail 13:10, 22 Dec 2006 (CET)

Probably a reason, like with Catholic priests, is that they are not allowed to marry because it distracts them. Another reason is because close attachment leads to fear of loss, fear becomes anger, anger becomes hate, hatred is the path to the dark side of power. I read the sentence somewhere.

But the Jedis of the new order are allowed to marry again. Luke for example - Grandpa Wann Knobi 18:45, 13 Mar 2007 (CET)

chic said Opi-When I also think that it has to do with the dependence on a person that is also forbidden Jango 17:20, Apr 8, 2007 (CEST)

I am of the opinion that Jedi were not allowed to marry because by marriage they allow feelings too much. The feelings very easily lead to the dark side. Small (well-known) exception: Ki-Adi-Mundi was allowed to marry and have children, otherwise his race would have become extinct, but the council knew about it. But it was only about procreation and not about feelings (kind of hard). Still, it often happened that Jedi had strong feelings for one another. Kit Fisto 21:10, May 17, 2009 (CEST), edited on 21:35, Jul 2, 2009 (CEST)
@ Opi-Wannn: This sentence, in a slightly modified form, is one of the reasons why Anakin should not be trained in episode I originally. Yoda says "I feel great fear in you." Anakin: "What does that have to do with it?" Yoda: "Everything: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred and hatred leads to unspeakable suffering." As one should know, hatred and especially suffering is the way to the dark side. Greetings --Simpsons3 10:19 PM, Oct 7, 2010 (CEST)
To the question. It was changed after the first great Jedi purge when The Exiles reorganized the order according to their principles. But I can't say by heart why she decided to take this route. One of the experts would have to give an answer for this time. Admiral Iblis 01:02 PM, Jan. 14, 2011 (CET)
Jedi were not allowed to marry or love in either Revan's time or immediately after the Exile. Pandora-important-discussion 00:04, Jan. 15, 2011 (CET)
So at the time of the Mandalorian Wars Jedi had families in any case, or it was not forbidden, see the Draay dynasty, also several students were trained by a teacher, like the seer students of Draay's mother. Admiral Iblis 12:12 am, Jan. 15, 2011 (CET)

question

So I think it's pretty stupid that as well as any link that has anything to do with Jedi leads to this article. I think you should have an article for each one. For example Jedi Knights, I think they deserve their own article. But if someone has something against it, you can just tell Boba 16:58, Apr 8, 2007 (CEST)

The forwarding of Jedi Knight to Jedi was only a temporary solution because this article originally also explained the ranks. Jedi knights should get their own article just like masters and padawans.
- Obi-Wan K.Admin 14:49, Apr 9, 2007 (CEST)
Why were there actually only "only" 9000 Jedi at the time of the old Jedi order with about a trillion living beings in the galaxy (number estimated) if they had been trained in groups like in the new one, they would not have had to be sent to these corps There would certainly have been 100,000 Jedi and they would have been able to defend themselves better against the clones and Palpatin so I find these guidelines of the Old Order much too complex what do you think Darth Revan Feuerroter Teufel 17:39, 28 Apr. 2008 (CEST)
Because that was not possible because it happened voluntarily if an amilie gave her child to the Jedi and then they had to find a master by 13 and not every Jedi took a Padawan, etc. you understand
EVERYONE HAS ITS OWN RULES FOR LIFE WHAT IS NOW WITH THINGS OF OTHER SPECIES E.G. GAND THEY ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE AS "FINDER" PRONOMS AND OTHERWISE TO TALK ABOUT YOURSELF IN A THIRD PERSON THAT APPLIED ALSO FOR THE JEDI OR WAS ANY TRADITION IN THE SPEZ THE JEDI PROHIBITED AND ONLY THE JEDI TEACHINGS APPLY(The above unsigned contribution comes from79.232.44.83 (discussion • posts) Jan. 17, 2009, 17:14:57)
Well, Captn Capslock, Jedi usually come to the Order at a very young age, so that they usually couldn't take the traditions of their people with them because they were too young for them. The example described with the Gand, however, should not be a problem, why should a Jedi not be allowed to speak of himself in the third person? Pandoradiscussion 18:29, Jan. 17, 2009 (CET)
What in 3 devil names means Captin Capslock my people and I've been called that before, what the hell, I warn you, this is an insult, I complain
P.S. I don’t want to answer that from you Modi you’re annoying enough to take care of your articles
If you've been called that before, I'd be wondering ... CapsLock is the caps lock key. Writing an entire text in capital letters is equivalent to shouting loudly and is therefore extremely impolite. And you don't have to offend any of the most active users here. Some users try to keep order here. Pandoradiscussion 7:04 p.m., Jan. 17, 2009 (CET)

Messengers, guards and custodians

I think we should better describe these ranks in a sub-category "history", since this classification only existed about 4000 VSY. The only source I know of describing these Jedi specializations is Kotor, and in the new era there is - in my opinion - too much evidence that this division has been broken:

  • In the Battle of Geonosis, apart from Mace Windu, you only see green and blue lightsabers. Either there were no guards at that time, or no one really adhered to the color scheme.
  • All who are not knights, youths, padawans or without a title are masters. According to the article, there were again more gunmen and guards in the Clone Wars, but they were not mentioned in the films or in any other source I know of from the era.