Why is Darth Maul so popular

Discussion: Maul

Draft [edit]

Hi,
StarWars.com says a little about Darth Maul in the Behind The Scenes section. Is something really relevant for the article or is it not enough? Darth Maul ~ Discus 6:03 p.m., Jun 10, 2008 (CEST)

Sure, good point for HdK. --Finwehttp: //www.jedipedia.de/wiki/skins/monobook/discussionitem_icon.gif 18:50, 10 Jun. 2008 (CEST)
So I've added it now, I hope I've managed not to worsen the article with the addition. Darth Maul ~ Discus 9:08 pm, Jun 10, 2008 (CEST)

Source [edit]

I would be interested with the Maul vs. Vader fight. Could you tell me where you got the info from ??? Thanks in advance ... well, I'm a big fan of Darth Maul and wrote a really great article .-- Kaliba 23:27, Jul 20, 2008 (CEST)

The comic is called Resurrection and was called Episode II Special published by Panini in Germany. Greetings, --Anakin Skywalker 23:39, Jul 20, 2008

(CEST) Thanks, I'll have a look where I can get it from ^^ --Kaliba 23:46, Jul 20, 2008 (CEST)

By the way, the cover of the comic looks like this → Image: Special 2,5.jpg
--Anakin Skywalker 11:50 PM, Jul 20, 2008 (CEST)
By the way, there is also a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiWyTsMLxbo) on Youtube. Question to everyone: is this actually an amateur video or is it canonical? When is something considered canonical? Could anyone write a canon book, or how does it work? Greetings, Tobi-wanMany words about nothing 3:17 p.m., Jan. 23, 2009 (CET)
Canonical is only what is produced by companies approved by LucasLicensing. Pandoradiscussion 17:36, Jan. 23, 2009 (CET)
And books? Are there certain publishers or "licensed" authors? Tobi-wanMany words about nothing 17:47, Jan. 23, 2009 (CET)

in the first edition of the official star wars fact file, darth maul is listed as an IRIDONIAN. what is more canonical, since i dont know if the zabrak is mentioned in episode 1. oh ... uh ... I noticed isses gard just ... * ashamed

What if two licensed books contradict each other. - 93.128.4.47 13:17, Jan. 13, 2012 (CET)

Then it goes according to the higher canonicality. Look here. rorretTHERE 14:49, Jan. 13, 2012 (CET)
By the way, Zabrak is the same as Iridonians, there is nothing contradicting each other. Seppi2621989 14:51, Jan. 13, 2012 (CET)

One more question about the S canon. In many other wikis there is agreement that e.g. films about series are not regarded as canonical just because they do not contradict the series. Why is it different here? 93.128.80.198 11:29, Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)

Hm, I don't quite understand that now. Which films for series? Regards, - Anakin Skywalker 11:57, Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)

It is so that the term "canon" is defined differently on many other wikis. Now not directly related to SW wikis. At the "Yu-Gi-Oh! -Wiki" I once asked why the content of the licensed film that goes with it is considered uncanonical, as it does not contradict the series in terms of content. And I was told in response that something was already uncanonical if it was not referred to in the main story (in the case of manga and anime). According to the definition, everything in Star Wars that does not appear in the films or Clone Wars should be non-Cannonian. As1990 22:05, Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)

That's nice for the Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki, but with Star Wars, we don't set the canon, but LucasLicencing. --ModgamersSuggestion box 10:09 p.m., Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)
I have now read too. I didn't realize there was an official guideline for the canon. As1990 10:16 PM, Jan 15, 2012 (CET)
But what I still don't understand is that the books about the films are on a par with the films. There's a lot of nonsense in there. In the book for episode 1 it says Qui-Gon's master would be 400 years old, in the book for episode 6 it says Vader did not know Yoda, etc.
They are not necessarily on a par with the films, as the books are mostly based on earlier script versions and therefore often differ from the finished films. One example is Episode III, where book and film often differ greatly from each other. In such cases, only the corresponding passages from the respective film are canonical. This is the case even with simple conversations, since two conversations that run differently cannot have taken place at the same time. And as for any discrepancies like the one you mentioned with Vader and Yoda, that's because the new trilogy didn't exist back then and there were some changes in the canon with its release. Greetings, Ivan Sinclair 10:24 PM, Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)
After editing conflict:
Yes at Starwars is it (at least still) very different. Lucas Licensing employs its own editors who make sure that all actions from films, series, novels, comics, etc. fit into one another and do not contradict one another. By and large it works, but there are some more or less serious continuity errors. These are balanced by having certain canon levels. The movies are at the top of that ladder, including the television series, then the novels and comics, and then the very old stories before the continuity is established. If the contents contradict each other, the information that is classified higher in the canon always applies.
For more information, I recommend the article Expanded Universe, and in particular the section on Continuity. Kind regards, - Anakin Skywalker 10:25 PM, Jan 15, 2012 (CET)

Ok, thanks for the detailed explanations. With the book for episode 6 I was only puzzled when I read the corresponding passage because 1. the date was from 1997, when the script for episode 1 was already in place and 2. other things like the name "Palpatine" had already been taken over into the book were. Just ask me why such a thing is in the book at all, because nothing corresponding is said in the film and this claim did not come from GL either. Doesn't matter anyway. Greetings As1990 10:34 PM, Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)

You probably have the book edition from the time of the Special Editions. They have a new cover, but the content is identical to the first edition from 1983. See: Episode VI (novel). And at the time, there wasn't an exact plot for the new trilogy. The name Palpatine does not just come from the new trilogy, but actually has its origin much earlier.
Some contradictions cannot be explained, they are simply due to the inability or the flowering imagination of the authors :-) Greetings, - Anakin Skywalker 10:47 p.m., Jan. 15, 2012 (CET)

Real name [edit]

According to the Wookiepedia, Darth's real name is Maul Khameir Sarin.

And that's a picture from his childhood. Image: Young-Darth Maul.jpg(The above unsigned contribution comes fromEvil040 (Discussion • Posts) 12:03 PM, Jul 25, 2008 (CEST))

Then we need a source, then we can enter that here as well. Darth Maul ~ Peace is a lie 12:03 p.m., Jul 25, 2008 (CEST)
It's not in the WP ... they don't have a real name either. MfG - Codyhttp: //www.jedipedia.net/w/skins/monobook/discussionitem_icon.gif 12:13, Jul 25, 2008 (CEST)

Yes, it is under discussion. Dark greetings, Evil040Sith Academy 18:33, Jul 25, 2008 (CEST)

Anyone who can read has a clear advantage: This is a translation of Maul into other languages ​​and thus neither canon nor his name as a child. Greetings Admiral Ackbar 18:40, 25 Jul. 2008 (CEST)

Teräs Käsi [edit]

you should probably also write that maul was a master of teräs käsi, right? I'll add that quickly, greetings Darth Bane92 19:11, 2. Aug. 2008 (CEST)

The change was rolled back because you didn't provide any sources for this supplement. Greetings, --Anakin Skywalker 19:22, Aug 2, 2008 (CEST)
hm, source would be the book Shadowhunters, that was already in the sources, or do I have to enter it somewhere else? or just say here? mfg Darth Bane92 08:57, Aug 3, 2008 (CEST)
If you are editing an article, you will see directly above the buttons save page, show Preview and Show changes one line Summary. This is intended to be used as a source of comments or references .-- Anakin Skywalker 10:58 AM, Aug 3, 2008 (CEST)

thank you ;-) I will implement it like this Greetings Darth Bane92 11:23, Aug. 3, 2008 (CEST)

Resurrection

Tach! I leafed through the less extensive Sith Wiki and compared it with "our" site. Wouldn't it be better if we also have a "resurrection" subtitle on our side? It is a little strange that the article says that he was killed by Kenobi, and the next heading is "Duel against Darth Vader" Source: http://de.starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Maul - -Master jaw 20:15, Nov. 13, 2008 (CET)

What it says is simply wrong ... the cyborg legs are not canonical, and it is never said anywhere that Maul is resurrected, only that someone who looks like him fights Vader. Dark power greetings Darth shut upShut up! 20:21, Nov. 13, 2008 (CET)
In fact, it was a clone of Maul; Palpi had once again staged a test for his new protégé ... Ben KenobiGM | HYD 20:29, Nov. 13, 2008 (CET)
Damn it, I need to update myself again Dark power greetings Darth shut upShut up! 8:31 pm, Nov 13, 2008 (CET)
Thank m8es I'm new here, and actually unsuitable as an author, because I've just read & seen the first 3 parts :). Greetings from Austria, --Jaw Iven Fedh Naed Cinux (yeah, Jedi artist name rulez) 8:39 p.m., Nov. 13, 2008 (CET)

Battlefront II [edit]

I think I know the reason for the mistake for installing Darth Maul's. As many people know, Darth Maul is one of the most popular Star Wars characters. Without thinking about it, the developers have probably built it for all the Darth Maul fans. As a criticism, I would still like to write that the error goes far too far. If you could only play Maul in one or two levels, it wouldn't be that bad. But since he is available as a playable character for the Separatists in almost every level, they were fighters of the Clone Wars, such as Dooku or Grievous, can hardly be played anymore. Dooku can only be played in one battle. 2009 (CET)

I think less! There are so many Jedi to play on cards they never were on! So much effort can hardly be put into checking everything during production! Disting 22:56, Jun 27, 2009 (CEST)
I would rather say this is just a nice contribution to the Maul fans, nothing else, a little extra, to call it a malicious error, is idiotic. - 84.72.130.60 14:39, 28 Jul. 2010 (CEST )
The most likely variation is that they just didn't have another character, but this all falls under JP: WJNI. - Nahdar 2:53 p.m., Jul 28, 2010 (CEST)

Film [edit]

I found a film about Darth Maul on the internet where he won a Sith exam. Here is the link: [1] --RC- 8015 Fi 19:13, Jul 11, 2010 (CEST)

It's uncanonical. Right at the beginning you can see that the TFN Fan Films comes from and is therefore not from LucasArts, but a FanArt. Since it's not canonical and a fanart, it doesn't make it into the article! Kitdiscussion 7:22 pm, Jul 11, 2010 (CEST)
To be honest, he seems more like a "living fighting machine" - lots of power, but zero personality. Palpatine deliberately only surrounded himself with students who could not be dangerous to him (Dooku was too old and idealistic, Vader too weak). The Perfect Student, certainly, but never the worthy legacy of the "Rule of Two". (The above unsigned contribution comes from80.141.184.156 (discussion) 23:33, Sep 10. 2010)
JP: WJNIPandora-important-discussion 11:35 am, Sep 11 2010 (CEST)

2 questions [edit]

1. How did Maul carry his double-bladed sword with him? 2. Was Darth Maul really already ^ Lord of the Sith ^? My little brother is a fan of him and wanted to know! Greetings, Mr. Grievous Sep 17, 2010 5:39 pm

To 2 I don't think so, because he was still a student in Episode I and after that he couldn't learn from any Sith. Palpatine was busy with Anakin aka Vader --Sithlord 8:28 p.m., Oct 23, 2010 (CEST)
Maul is definitely a Sith lord. In the film he is addressed as a lord. Also, Darth Bane said that by agreeing to be his student, Zannah became a Sith Lord. To 1: Maul had it hung on his belt, I think you can see it in the film. --Lorian Nod 7:10 PM, Oct 24, 2010 (CEST)

1. So did he dangle it in full length from his belt? lol 2. I think he was a Sith Lord, otherwise he wouldn't have the tilel that "Darth" Mr. Grievous Jan 9th, 2011

to 2. He was not a master of the Sith. According to Bane's rule of two, there is a master and a disciple, with Maul Sidious was the master and Maul was the disciple. The Rule of Two also says that you only become a Lord of the Sith once you have defeated your master (which Maul did not have). @Lorian: Bane was more likely to mean that she was going to become a Lord of the Sith as she wasn't worth the rank at all when she started training. Kitdiscussion 3:47 p.m., Jan. 9, 2011 (CET)
Not correct! It is more likely a discrepancy in your book. Maul was a lord of the Sith. He is even referred to as Lord Maul by Darth Sidious in episode 1. Vader was also addressed as Lord. 77.13.145.135 16:44, Nov. 28, 2011 (CET)
Have you ever thought that Lord is also just a title? It can also be that it is even considered formidable? So it is in the source. Kitdiscussion 5:00 p.m., Nov. 28, 2011 (CET)

The question that was asked wasn't whether he was a Master, just whether he was Lord of the Sith. And if George Lucas called him Lord of the Sith, then he was one too. Vader is also referred to in the novels as the Lord of the Sith, although he is still a student. 93.128.84.154 12:45 pm, Dec. 9, 2011 (CET)

I quote the article on the term Sith Lord in the section on the rule of two: "In this section of history, both masters and students can always be regarded as Sith Lords." 93.128.84.154 12:50, Dec. 9, 2011 (CET)

Darth Maul is alive! (The Clone Wars)

Obviously, Darth Maul is still alive at the time of the Clone Wars, according to THE CLONE WARS. This is the conclusion that comes from looking at the story of Savage Opress consider. How can you best integrate this into the article? --Exodianecross 1:22 p.m., Apr 2, 2011 (CEST)

Who says it's the real mouth and not something else? Clearly nothing has been said yet. Seppi2621989 14:26, Apr 2, 2011 (CEST)
Talzin sends Opress to look for Maul in the Outer Rim, I'm sure there is a lot behind it. --Exodianecross 17:18, Apr 5, 2011 (CEST)
The story arc is supposed to be continued / ended in the fourth season, until then we can only guess. - Nahdar 19:56, Apr 5, 2011 (CEST)

Cyborg? [Edit]

Why does it say that Darth Maul is a cyborg? It's an uncanonical story. Trandoshaner 20:58, Mar 2. 2012 (CET)

Unfortunately not. - Nahdar 9:02 p.m., 2. Mar. 2012 (CET)
Even as canonical as the movies :-( (The above unsigned contribution comes from47.67.177.187 (discussion) 28 Mar. 2013, 17:51)
In the films it is never said directly that Maul is dead. Greetings Battle Droid - Conference of the separatist Senate - clone factory on Kamino 19:42, 28 Mar. 2013 (CET)

No, not as canon as the movies because it's T-canon. Therefore everything from Clone Wars is canon that does not contradict the films, so Maul's return is canon. - 77.11.163.76 12:12, 30 Jun. 2013 (CEST)

Evaluation [edit]

Species [edit]

The database is given as the source for the Dathomirian species. There it says that his species is Dathomirian, but if you click on the species, you will learn that the Dathomirians are only the inhabitants of Dathomir and that the male Dathomirians are Zabrak. Janomoogo (discussion) 23:54, Feb. 7, 2015 (CET)

Wrong, there you learn that the men are descended from the zabraks, theoretically all Dathomirian Zabrak humans are hybrids. In addition, the Dathomiri are the inhabitants of Dathomir and the species hot Dathomirians see HierObi-Markt Kenobi (discussion) 14:33, Feb. 8, 2015 (CET)